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[Mathmatics]

I dont understand. Such a great core combat system. A great IP I have loved for ages. great looking graphics when they are not glitched. As far as the combat engine goes it does everything I always wished mech4 would do and then some. Yet im playing codblobs2 and ps2 right now instead. Maybe its just not being able to play 8 vs 8 with no stupid pugs, that might get be back but right now I just feel really let down.

[Soulscour]

I think it all comes down to mathematics. Like most other companies, they discovered that the more people that play, the more potential for them to make money. You're good with fractions right? (number of new players pugging) > (exclusive founders premade team)

[Broceratops]

what happens if you 8v8 and it turns out the 'stupid pug' part of the equation is now you? try find some empathy.

[DerSpecht]

Stupid PUGs?

**** YOU SIR!

[Orkhepaj]

another arogant IM PRO wannabe
he would whine the most if he had to fight vs other 8 premades ,and probably try to hack the system to return eazy shooting the pugs

[Jumbik]

Reason? Can you show me where have you described what is wrong with this game? You said maybe 8 man teams ... but MAYBE is not a reason...

[Khan Reaper]

I'm so lost on how many people think this game is bad. It literally baffles me. I am having a great time with it. I will admit that I have had very few issues. I just had the yellow screen for the first time yesterday. And I do drop occasionally. But it's still a terrific game. Then again I am not super picky either, especially considering the game is free. Now I did pay for a founders package, but that, to me, signifies even further how many people are really just cry babies. I mean, I feel that I have gotten my money's worth. So how are people that haven't payed a dime not getting theirs??? I truly believe this game is on the path to greatness. Once CW is implemented, I don't know how I'm going to find the time to do anything but play. PGI has proven to be competent in every regard (in my opinion). They've only upset me once when they didn't add camo/paint when they said they were....but I was super excited about that and they couldn't have possibly known how excited (a little too excited). But now I have painted mechs, what, a week later? I think that in the end, it comes down to "haters gonna hate".

(I have no complaints about netcode either, but I know literally nothing about computers, and am basing this on the fact that I kill plenty of mechs)

(I also don't understand the PUG vs. Premade arguement. Premades are complaining that they want to go up against other premades, then get mad when PGI pulls it so that they can make that happen. The fact is, you want to fight other premades for the challenge, but don't like it when there is the added challenge of being in a PUG. I get murdered very often due to PUG team mates running off and doing their own thing. But I fight it out, learn some lessons, and drive on. I feel like it's making me a better pilot in preparation for CW.)

I love you.

[Martini Henrie]

Pugs are your prospective new team mates on your TS server. Treat them well, and most will play along just fine

[Wingbreaker]

Mathmatics, on 28 November 2012 - 04:51 AM, said:

im playing codblobs2

Found the problem.

[Broceratops]

Wingbreaker, on 28 November 2012 - 05:28 AM, said:

Found the problem.

guy beats entire mission without actually doing anything because everything is scripted

[AllOuttaBubbleGum]

You should leave the game. It is making you too unhappy. It's a luxury, go enjoy yourself somewhere else and stop pping in our cornflakes.

[Streeter]

Martini Henrie, on 28 November 2012 - 05:24 AM, said:

Pugs are your prospective new team mates on your TS server. Treat them well, and most will play along just fine

Not that I want to turn into another one of those threads. BUT most PUGs are fine and play really well. The catch is that when someone is Team killing,farming, being annoying, starbursting or whatever.... its not the guy on your 4 man team its that PUG guy. For someone who likes playing in a team and has played on 8 mans before it is REALLY frustrating.

Now with free premium time over Ill check out betty, camo and weapon tweaks for a bit then Im going to take a break until 8v8 is back in, I dont care if I get smashed every time against other 8s, at least I know my team mates arent going to be farming, shooting me in the back or suiciding and instead will be attempting at least some sort of team work.

anyway on topic, netcode, crashes and *bad* pugs (I didnt say all) is what is killing the game for me.

[Vassago Rain]

Broceratops, on 28 November 2012 - 05:31 AM, said:

guy beats entire mission without actually doing anything because everything is scripted

Glorious video.

[Mathmatics]

Widow Maker, on 28 November 2012 - 05:33 AM, said:

You should leave the game. It is making you too unhappy. It's a luxury, go enjoy yourself somewhere else and stop pping in our cornflakes.

Yeah thats the essence of it right there. I want to play it because its such a good game. Its just the bad things the devs are doing are aggravating my high blood pressure. When I said I dont want to play with stupid pugs, its because I dont. Not all pugs are stupid but the ones that are (afk exping, boting, dcing b4 death, suicideing, brand freaking new) I dont want to play with at all. I also dont want to play my 2 lances vs pugs unless the pugs are doing intentionally looking for a harder game. Like if there was a option for pugs to drop in premades to fill in the holes. I dont imagine alot would do that but really good puggers looking for an outfit might think it a good start twords joining one. IDK.

Alot of you contridicted yourselves because I already said the game was good. In fact the only person I felt any intelligence from was widowmaker. The blops comment was expected. Would I rather be playing a mindless shooter thats part of an IP I dont care about. Or a kick *** battletech sim with a rocking combat engine. Bigest + to blops is the graphics are better and run more stable. Everything in that game is stable, everything maxed in blops 2 100+fsp and it looks amazing. I can only turn one thing to medium on mwo and still get 20fps since 2 patches ago. But I dont really care aobut the franchise of cod so theres nothing for me to get upset about when they do things that makes me pretty sure they will fail.

Maybe ill go pug for a bit, an miraculously have a good time. Since all my mates in my corp are currently playing planetside 2 until 8 mans come back. Not because we cant pugstop with 4 men (because we do every time) but because pugstomping with 4 men is less than half as fun as it was with 8 and you never ever have a good premade vs premade so most matches just suck.

Thanks for those of you that listened to my rant with your hearts and did not just use it as a target for your internetwityness.

Edited by Mathmatics, 28 November 2012 - 05:49 AM.

[Dr Killinger]

It doesn't, in my opinion.

[Joseph Mallan]

Soulscour, on 28 November 2012 - 04:59 AM, said:

I think it all comes down to mathematics. Like most other companies, they discovered that the more people that play, the more potential for them to make money. You're good with fractions right? (number of new players pugging) > (exclusive founders premade team)

Mathmatics=A name
Mathematics= A subject I hated in school.
Your lesson is complete.

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 28 November 2012 - 06:33 AM.

[Enigmos]

The problem with the game is that it is only a third of the game so far.

It is in development.

BUT...the instant gratification crowd presumes the game is complete (hey, they opened beta, right? therefore this is the whole game, right? Whether my misconception is the right misconception is irrelevant, right? There is no paradise patch being held in reserve: paradise is a myth, right?).

Without an attention span, history is a myth.

[MrPenguin]

We ended up with an 8 man group yesterday, still lost against pubbies.
(2 of our groups on the same teamspeak got matched together on the same team. Incredibly lucky)

[Mathmatics]

OriginalTibs, on 28 November 2012 - 06:00 AM, said:

The problem with the game is that it is only a third of the game so far.

It is in development.

BUT...the instant gratification crowd presumes the game is complete (hey, they opened beta, right? therefore this is the whole game, right? Whether my misconception is the right misconception is irrelevant, right? There is no paradise patch being held in reserve: paradise is a myth, right?).

Without an attention span, history is a myth.

The whole open beta paradigm has complacently shifted in the last 2 years. Mostly the last 6 months. Tribes ascend somehow managed to do something no one else has been able to but it should be every FTP games model. WoT on a lesser scale. Point is Ive paid 200 bucks so far for this "beta"

MrPenguin, on 28 November 2012 - 06:01 AM, said:

We ended up with an 8 man group yesterday, still lost against pubbies.
(2 of our groups on the same teamspeak got matched together on the same team. Incredibly lucky)

WE had that once or twice. Its nice but its almost like a giant ********** at the same time ya know. Like oh... **** wish we could do that again.

[Vila deVere]

Soulscour, on 28 November 2012 - 04:59 AM, said:

I think it all comes down to mathematics. Like most other companies, they discovered that the more people that play, the more potential for them to make money. You're good with fractions right? (number of new players pugging) > (exclusive founders premade team)

But the the founders premade teams are likely to spend more money. IN a F2P game, the number of players being large only helps if they actually spend money.